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Post  MRJM_Angels on Sun 24 May 2015, 21:20

Hello,

I'm wondering what Angel I have here..? 75% sure she's female, but obviously this isn't guaranteed till spawning!
She has some blue on her but its hard to catch this on the camera! Sad
Thanks! Smile

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Post  Pterophyllum on Sun 24 May 2015, 22:46

Sometimes, without doing a test cross, it's hard to be absolutely sure what you have.
At first glance it looks to be a silver, but there's something going on at the rear, there's odd marks at the top of the anal fin & rear of the dorsal fin, which could be down to some sort of marble gene, but I suspect, when you take the darker than normal tail and the darkness between the tail band & rear body band into consideration, it may be an incompletely expressing half black.

Half black is a slightly problematic variety in that it results from a recessive gene, but environmental, and possibly other genetic influences too, cause a fish that's genetically half black to develop as a normal silver, or only partially express.

A fully expressed half black looks like this :-

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Post  MRJM_Angels on Mon 25 May 2015, 13:31

Thank you very much. I wasn't ever sure if it was a Half Black or Silver! As you say, both her anal & dorsal fins are slightly off in coloration!

Thanks again! Smile
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Post  Deans_Angels on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 17:48

Of course, the Half Black and Wild Silver traits aren't mutually exclusive, so it's not one or the other, but likely a combination of both: a Silver Half Black, which genetics calculators tend to describe as just 'Half Black'.

Personally, I think Wild Half Black is more descriptive Laughing

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Post  Akasha on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 09:35

obviously wildreddeer is the man for sexing accurately but I keep looking at the first photo and can't help thinking it looks like a male to me. There looks to be the beginnings of a nuchal hump growing Neutral
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Post  Deans_Angels on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 16:06

Hard to tell, but following visual guidelines I came to the same conclusion Akasha, that it's a male angelfish.

Knowing nothing about the parents, broadly speaking, there's a 12.5% chance ( 1 in 8 ) it's a male and homozygous halfblack.
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Post  wildreddeer on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 21:38

Hi and welcome,

Sorry if I'm the tiding of bad news but you have a fine looking male there.

http://www.uk-angelfishforum.org.uk/t417-how-to-sex-your-angelfish.

Is where I have posted guidance for sexing Angels. It might seem a bit complicated at first but give it time and you will find it very straight forward.

You won't see much of me on the forum, as due to health I had to pack it all in. But I just can't let it go. So hence I'm still around.

Good luck with your Angels.

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