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Post  endlessendlers Sat 21 Apr 2012, 21:50

Now I am confident enough to ship I have listed my baby Pinoys on eBay. I am posting a link to my listing and appreciate any comments you may have.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PINOY-GHOST-AND-PINOY-SMOKEY-ANGELFISH-/230779768336?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Fish&hash=item35bb8bce10
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Post  endlessendlers Sun 22 Apr 2012, 08:02

What are your views on the cost of each fish and P&P? Do you all think its a fair price?
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Post  kim554x Sun 22 Apr 2012, 09:38

I think your cost is a little high for the average punter on ebay if they buy 3 fish off of you cost 18 plus 16 postage total of 34 poungs average cost of over 11 pounds per fish they should be able to buy angels at their local shop same size around 5 pounds each. I am not saying that your fish are not worth the price far from it they are stunning and they could not be purchased in your average LFS. I am just saying if you want to attract casual buyers you may have to look at both costs postage and fish. (Average price for most fish posted on ebay at moment 12 pounds) I hope you do not take this post as critism as i said your fish are stunning it just that the average punter will have no idea about angelfish genetics but he will know about the pounds in his wallet.

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Post  endlessendlers Sun 22 Apr 2012, 10:10

Thanks for your honesty Kim. I would say it's constructive criticism. I think i'll drop the postage to £12.00. I'll leave the Angel price the same as there is a "Best Offer" option.
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Post  Ghipsi Sun 22 Apr 2012, 14:52

Well done Helen on the posting and and add Very Happy
I have sold various things on ebay over the last 10 years including fish and if you get your adds right you will do well (I was even a stamp dealer for a few years lol! ).
Whenever you plan an add (epecialy on ebay), try to put yourself in a buyers position. What do you think when you read through ebay adds? Do you instantly beleive what is being said about the item? Would you pay the price asked for the item?

As with all adds it is 'Cavet emptor' (buyer beware), so basicaly you need to realy sell with your description and images Very Happy

So if you follow a few key ingredients you should do well Very Happy

Tital: This is where you get the interest going, your tital: PINOY GHOST AND PINOY SMOKEY ANGELFISH
I would put 'Stunning Rare Pinoy Angelfish, YES PINOY pb/pb' (are they KK lines? if so add that to the tital)
Don't bother with the sub heading as it just costs more money.

Images:..................... will update shortly
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Post  endlessendlers Sun 22 Apr 2012, 15:32

Thanks ghipsi. I never thought of them a "rare", but if you say they are, they must be! I suppose I could say they are from Wharmby angels lines too.
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Post  endlessendlers Sun 22 Apr 2012, 15:35

Ghipsi wrote:Well done Helen on the posting and and add Very Happy
I have sold various things on ebay over the last 10 years including fish and if you get your adds right you will do well (I was even a stamp dealer for a few years lol! ).
Whenever you plan an add (epecialy on ebay), try to put yourself in a buyers position. What do you think when you read through ebay adds? Do you instantly beleive what is being said about the item? Would you pay the price asked for the item?

As with all adds it is 'Cavet emptor' (buyer beware), so basicaly you need to realy sell with your description and images Very Happy

So if you follow a few key ingredients you should do well Very Happy

Tital: This is where you get the interest going, your tital: PINOY GHOST AND PINOY SMOKEY ANGELFISH
I would put 'Stunning Rare Pinoy Angelfish, YES PINOY pb/pb' (are they KK lines? if so add that to the tital)
Don't bother with the sub heading as it just costs more money.

Images:..................... will update shortly

The only problem with the pb/pb is that I'm not even sure whether John's fish are pb or some other blue gene. What are your thoughts because mum is one of John's Smokey pinoy paraibas.
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Post  Ghipsi Sun 22 Apr 2012, 16:11

The only problem with the pb/pb is that I'm not even sure whether John's fish are pb or some other blue gene. What are your thoughts because mum is one of John's Smokey pinoy paraibas.

OK, all of the fish that I have had from John carry pb, but I do find that the blue takes longer to express then other pb lines.
The reason I say mention Ken Kennedy if they are from his lines is that KK lines sell with the name.
If you aren't sure they are pb/pb then mention that some may be pb het (don't mention this as a down side, it is still a possative!). OK back to Images:

Take this image for example:

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If I were advertising the Koi in this image I would not use the whole image, it is untidy and dosn't do the individuals justice.
Therefore this image would be cropped down to:

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Description: Now is the crunch, describe as fully as possable, make every point sound good!

and don't forget to metion the UK Angelfish Forum Very Happy

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Post  Ghipsi Sun 22 Apr 2012, 16:14

oops forgot to mention: If you are selling with buy it now, then make sure you have more than one available in the selling quantity as people may want a small number of the fish to offset the postage costs Very Happy
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Post  endlessendlers Sun 22 Apr 2012, 22:04

Thanks for the tips. I have revised the listing. I did not change the pics as it's too much hassle at the moment, but I will if I have to re-list them. Here's the link:

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=230779768336&index=0&nav=SELLING&nid=59041749184
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Post  chiligum Mon 23 Apr 2012, 23:10

I was a powerseller up until 2 months ago and i must say that the whole listing from start to finish is spot on,
is there going to be any at the auction next month or are they all staying in Wales?!
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Post  endlessendlers Tue 24 Apr 2012, 00:49

chiligum wrote:I was a powerseller up until 2 months ago and i must say that the whole listing from start to finish is spot on,
is there going to be any at the auction next month or are they all staying in Wales?!
Mark.

Sorry, I just don't have the time to get to these events. I'm trying to juggle working; angelfish keeping and looking after four kids and a hubby. I could always post some. If you're interested just pm me.
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