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Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 14:22

Like Gibbo, I love it when they go free swimming,
These went free swimming yesterday....
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Whilst these two have been guarding their huge shoal of free swimming babies for 2 weeks now.

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Post  gibbo156 on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 18:50

Really beautiful !

What are the genetics of the parents?

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Post  J's Orpingtons on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 19:52

Beautiful fish!
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Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 05 Nov 2012, 20:08

What are the genetics of the parents?

The first pair,
The male is a pearlscale koi, His mother was a koi, whilst his father was a platinum marble ghost, brother to my avatar. As both parents had a gold marble gene there's a 1/3rd chance that he's Gm/Gm but I think he's Gm/g - S/S - p/p - +/pb. There may be smokey in the mix too, as although I know his father didn't have a smokey gene, it's quite possible that his mother does.
The female is from this pair http://www.uk-angelfishforum.org.uk/t96-trying-again so I know she is g/g - S/Z - Sm/(+ or Sm) - pb/pb and she has a 2/3rds chance that she's carrying an albino gene , there's also a good likelyhood that she's carrying a pearlscale gene.

The other pair are siblings, and this pairing is part of a long term project. Outwardly they appear to be gold marbles, almost certainly gold marble ghosts. But there was something strange about their father and several of his siblings.
This is Dad....
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To look at him, and many of his siblings, they look like a typical gold marbles, yet I know their mother was M/+ - S/Z. When I mated him to a gold female I got 100% marbled young, about 1/2 of these looked like typical gold marbles Gm/g like this pair, but the rest were much darker and look like typical marble x golds (M/g). This means that he was M/Gm - and I'm pretty confident that he inherrited the stripeless rather than the zebra gene from Mum.

These are typical of the darker siblings
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The next step will be to pair two of these darker siblings, and to hopefully get some from this current batch that are Gm/Gm and some from the darker pairing that are M/M, I should then be in a position to try to isolate why the original fish looked like he did.
Incidentally,
for those who are wondering, both this latest male, and his father are only veils, so V/+.
and for those wondering about the female, she is a gold marble, if you look closely at the front base of the dorsal you can just see a little bit of black, and she has a larger black patch on her other flank!


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