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my breeding pair of Angels are both different colors to each other

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Re: my breeding pair of Angels are both different colors to each other

Post  Deans_Angels on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 17:28

Lizkel31 wrote:wish i had the room and the tanks to separate them as well

I've just separated some of mine, there were too many pairs in a tank. You can see how I've got things set up here:

http://www.uk-angelfishforum.org.uk/t778p15-deans-angels-fishroom#5853

Now... you wouldn't want that in your front room!

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my breeding Angel fish have young and have laid more eggs

Post  Lizkel31 on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 01:31

Hi the 2 breeding Angelfish i have with baby Angels have laid more eggs is this normal ? will they kill the babies they already have to protect the new eggs they have laid

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my baby Angel Fish are getting big

Post  Lizkel31 on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 21:45

this is one of the babies and its got the stripes

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my baby Angel fish are getting big

Post  Lizkel31 on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 21:49

heres another baby Angel the others are still small and hard to get a picture of

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more of my Angel fish

Post  Lizkel31 on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 22:02


heres some of my other Angel fish in my other tank

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Post  Deans_Angels on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 23:45

They're coming on well, well done!

The body shape should 'round up' a bit more as they get older. If you continue to look after them well, they should keep their lovely straight fins as adults too.

I see you've got a thing for angelfish... and jellyfish!

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Post  Deans_Angels on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 23:58

Also, are you able to estimate how many 'types' of fish which came from that spawn? and do you know their rough numbers? were half like this, and the other half like that. Or does there look to be 3 or 4 types etc? That information should give us an idea of what the parents are. Do any have pink gill plates etc?

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Post  Lizkel31 on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 00:33

i have the parents there pictures are furture up in this post there in a seperate tank with  the babies.and the babies are either the ones with the stipe like one parent or black and silver like the other parent , out of all the eggs laid i have about 15  babys survived im pleased with that

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Post  Deans_Angels on Thu 27 Aug 2015, 02:30

Not bad, it's all good experience. Are you trying for more next time Very Happy

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my breeding pair of Angels are both different colors to each other

Post  Lizkel31 on Thu 27 Aug 2015, 05:55

yes i have 2 lots of breeding angel fish in my big tank there1s been 2 batches of eggs laid from each pair so when these babies are big enough to move out of theretank i will put a different breeding pair in it and see what happens

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my breeding pair of Angels are both different colors to each other(update)

Post  Lizkel31 on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:08

Here`s some recent pictures of my baby Angel fish they are getting big now and there colours are coming out nice

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Post  Pterophyllum on Fri 25 Sep 2015, 00:11

Ok, assuming those are all from the original pair that started this thread we can tell a lot more about the parents now!

1. In photo 3, the top left fish looking right, and in photo 4, the middle fish looking left, are both gold marbles, that means that Dad had a gold marble gene & Mum had a gold gene.
2. There are some very heavily marbled fish (for example the other two fish in photo 4) these have marble rather than gold marble genes.

That means that Dad isn't a koi, but rather a Marble blushing with a gold marble gene, these are sometimes called "orange marbles".

So Dad is M/Gm - S/S whilst Mum is +/g - +/+

This means you should have four different types of offspring in roughly similar quantities :-

M/+ - S/+ = marble ghost - these should be silver with quite light marbling (the fish bottom left in photo 3 would be typical)
M/g - S/+ = also marble ghost, but the gold gene will produce much darker marbling (the fish left & right in photo 4 are typical)
Gm/+ - S/+ = Silver gold marble ghost, these will have very little in the way of marbling, even less than the M/+ - S/+ marbles, but like them they will have silver bodies. (the fish in the second photo, and on the right of the third photo are typical)
Gm/g - S/+ = gold marble ghosts, like the silver gold marbles, but with a gold/white rather than silver base colour. The fish in the middle of the 4th photo is going to develop into a fine example of the type.

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MY BREEDING PAIR OF ANGELS ARE BOTH DIFFERENT COLORS TO EACH OTHER(UPDATE)

Post  Lizkel31 on Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:15

Thanks for your reply and the information ,yes these are all from the 2 adults that i opened the post on, so does that mean the adult Angels are not wild Angel fish ? do you think the adults are from  different types of Angels that have been breed ? so if i seem stupid but i am still trying to understand the breeding strains (if i got that right ) what i mean is that they havent been inbreed if you know what i mean


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Post  Pterophyllum on Fri 25 Sep 2015, 18:29

The mother is a silver angel, all wild angels have a similar pattern to her, but the fact that she's carrying a gold gene means that she's not a wild caught fish. The male carries several domestic mutations not seen in the wild. The vast majority of of angels sold in the UK are farmed, wild fish are significantly more expensive and almost certainly will be sold as such.

Even if the parents are in bred, assuming that they're not related, which seems highly likely, given their genetic make up, then their offspring won't be.


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