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Post  raiko on Mon 03 Sep 2012, 22:44

These are some pictures of the first generation:

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Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 03 Sep 2012, 23:00

They look great!
How easy/difficult was it to get these ones to spawn compared to your manacapuru angels? and compared to typical domestic fish?

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Post  raiko on Mon 03 Sep 2012, 23:22

The conditions under which fledge Manacapuru and Rio Nanay are similar. Their dimensions are larger than the size of the domestic angelfish. Volumes in which they grow and breeding are slightly larger.
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Post  TONY,S ANGELS on Tue 04 Sep 2012, 11:46

Hi raiko
Your breeding is going very nicley, And some good shapes to your Angels, I am very interrested in your breeding as i have some Angels that look very similar to yours I was told they were F1,s from wild manacapuru so i got them into
my breeding stock because the body size was the biggest i have ever seen in Angels, Are your stock fish very big
in the body to.
Cheers Tony

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Post  raiko on Wed 05 Sep 2012, 23:16

Yes Tony. The size of the body of my wild angelfish (including F1, F2, F3 and F4 Manacapuru) is larger than the size of the domestic angelfish.
Something like:
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Post  TONY,S ANGELS on Fri 07 Sep 2012, 11:24

Hi raiko
Yes all of my F1, to F5,s have all kept there size even when they have been crossed into
my other strains there strong genes tend to give very big fish when grown to adult,s I
had not realized how big some of my stock was untill a buyer came down from newcastle
and he said to me he had not seen such big Angels befor, I said that i was just used to seeing
them every day and did not realize the size of them.
The same can be said for Discus the domestic discus / Angels have lost a lot of there size in the process
of getting more colour in the fish this is in my opinion not a bad thing, but this is the reason a lot of the top
breeders like to breed a wild back into the strains to keep good size and put different blood lines into
there stock fish. It would be nice to here if the other breeders on here found the same over the years with there stock fish.
Cheers Tony
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