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Post  Ghipsi Thu 22 Mar 2012, 14:40

Finaly sorted images out so I will list the types with various images and update info when time alows or as any questions arise Very Happy
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1a) Philipene Blue (Blue Silver) & Blue Ghosts bred from Wild cross Singapore Blue to Wharmbys Titanium Blue
pb/pb and S/+ - pb/pb

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These are the batch mates to the youngsters above, they only carry a single blue (pb) gene, 2 blue pb genes are needed to express the blue colour properly:
Silver (pb het) & Ghosts (pb het)

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Post  Ghipsi Thu 22 Mar 2012, 17:00

I have a small number of these beauties available at 50p+ size and a large number coming up to 5p boldysize.
These are out of a Wild cross Singapore Blue Female & my big Koi Paraiba Lad Very Happy
Types include Blue Smokey Ghost (Sm/+ - S/+ - pb/pb), Blue Treasure Map Ghost AKA Blue Smokey Silver Gold Marble Ghost (Sm/+ - Gm/+ - S/+ - pb/pb), Blue Silver Gold Marble Ghost (Gm/+ - S/+ - pb/pb) & Blue Ghost (S/+ - pb/pb):

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Now for the pb het batch mates of the above Very Happy

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Post  Ghipsi Thu 22 Mar 2012, 17:27

A few updated images of the Smokey Ghost pb het youngsters (Sm/+ - S/+ - +/pb)

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Now for something a little different:
Red Devil Koi Angels:

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Gold Marble Ghost Angels (pb het):

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Various Koi Angels (pb het & possably some pb/pb):

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Blue Koi Angels (pb het & possably some pb/pb):

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I also have other Smokeys, Silver Gold Marbles etc available. Lisa Very Happy
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Post  uk bulldog Fri 23 Mar 2012, 06:45

WOW they are are stunners Lisa.

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Post  Ghipsi Fri 23 Mar 2012, 07:35

Thanks Paul Very Happy
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Post  endlessendlers Fri 23 Mar 2012, 10:24

Those red devil koi are beauties. Is this the line your using to achieve high coverage?
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Post  Pterophyllum Fri 23 Mar 2012, 10:41

You've got some lovely fish there Lisa, and I'm glad to see you using the "Treasure Map" name! Very Happy

Blue Treasure Map Ghost AKA Blue Smokey Silver Gold Marble Ghost

As an aside, I wonder just how many colours could be combined in one angel's name? Introduce a couple of half black and a couple of albino genes and you'd have an :-
albino half black blue smokey silver gold marble ghost!
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Post  Ghipsi Fri 23 Mar 2012, 10:55

I haven't put a piccy of the Blue Treasure Map Angel up, he is breathtaking Very Happy

I wonder just how many colours could be combined in one angel's name? Introduce a couple of half black and a couple of albino genes and you'd have an :-
albino half black blue smokey silver gold marble ghost!

Now that would be fun, who has the Angel with the longest name I wonder? Very Happy
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Post  chiligum Fri 23 Mar 2012, 12:52

It all depends if you give it a Welsh name, that would win every time, some of those words are huge!
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Post  Pterophyllum Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:25

if you give it a Welsh name, that would win every time

That's a great plan, we've all heard of Philippine blue, what about Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Red?
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Post  Ghipsi Fri 23 Mar 2012, 14:26

Now say it out load whilst drinking a pint Very Happy
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Post  chiligum Fri 23 Mar 2012, 16:48

It sounds like lots of pints have been drank!
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Post  JamieDurrant Mon 26 Mar 2012, 08:50

Hello, i'd like to buy some angels at the end if the month if i could. Im just wondering why would someone buy a pb het over a pb/pb surely its better to get it already blue instead of having to breed it. What other smokeys do you have? And do you have any blue marbles?

Also is the price the same as all the others?

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Post  Pterophyllum Mon 26 Mar 2012, 11:44

Im just wondering why would someone buy a pb het over a pb/pb
Also is the price the same as all the others?
Price might be one reason, availability a second, but thirdly not everyone likes blues!...

Angels can produce many hundreds of babies in a single batch. If you're breeding on a small scale using mixed parents lets you produce several different varieties in one go. As an example a smokey that is heterozygous for gold, stripeless and pb(+/g - S/+ - Sm/+ - +/pb) mated to a paraiba koi (Gm/g - S/S - +/+ - pb/pb)
would produce 24 distinct varieties from platinums and golds to smokey paraibas, being able to offer a retailer a choice of varieties in small numbers (10 -20) at a time, would probably make your babies more saleable than have 300 or 400 blue smokies.
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Post  Ghipsi Mon 26 Mar 2012, 13:46

I myself have not had access to the genetics that I want in my breeding programs hence I have used some non pb Angels to put me on the road to the pb/pb types that I am interested for example I love the quality of the Wild genes therefore to add these genetics into my blues I would need to produce pb hets.
Lets say you wanted some Chocolate Paraibs (blushing Blue Chocolate), where would you get some? I for one don't know unless Rob had any for sale? So I have had to produce the Fish with the genetics to produce a Chocolate Paraiba and offer the chance for others to breed the same as I let everyone know what genetics each fish is carrying Very Happy
Prices do vary a little depending on the numbers & demand of certain types.
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Post  Pterophyllum Mon 26 Mar 2012, 14:04

Lets say you wanted some Chocolate Paraibs (blushing Blue Chocolate), where would you get some? I for one don't know unless Rob had any for sale?
I do have one, but he's not for sale!
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Post  Ghipsi Mon 26 Mar 2012, 14:21

LOL, hence the reason for producing the pb hets Very Happy
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